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Old 02-03-2011, 03:55 PM
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I just read that anything that has been in Florida waters for 50 years or more is considered state property and is illegal to take. Does this also pertain to items that are 50 years or older and are found between the seaward toe of the dune and the ordinary water line?
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Just tell them to prove that its been there for 50 years.

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Just tell them to prove that its been there for 50 years.
well if you have a coin that older than 50 years I think they can tell.

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Tell them all the coins you have found fell out of your pockets yesterday....plus you lost alot more also, and need to find them to.
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Tell them all the coins you have found fell out of your pockets yesterday....plus you lost alot more also, and need to find them to.
Yea what he said and that big heavy box..

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well if you have a coin that older than 50 years I think they can tell.
Hows that? If I drop a 1963 nickel today and someone finds it in 3 years, that doesn't mean its been lost for 50 years.

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There was a post talking about the water line and the legal aspects on here a week or so ago.....

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Well, if I were detecting the beach and found a gold doubloon or two, you can bet I would not advertise it and it certainly would go home with me. That is a fact. RickO

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Hows that? If I drop a 1963 nickel today and someone finds it in 3 years, that doesn't mean its been lost for 50 years.
a 63 nickle is not 50 years old so your good unless my math is wrong
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a 63 nickle is not 50 years old so your good unless my math is wrong
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Your math is fine, but your reasoning is not.

He said it won't be found for three years. So when it's found, it will be 51 years old.

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I just read that anything that has been in Florida waters for 50 years or more is considered state property and is illegal to take. Does this also pertain to items that are 50 years or older and are found between the seaward toe of the dune and the ordinary water line?
BGF, I have not taken the time to read all the replies here so far. But let's just cut-to-the-chase :

Why stop at that supposed law ? I can guarantee you that there's not a speck of public land anywhere in the USA that you can detect, that I can't find some law you're in violation of. If I stand on one foot and squint real hard, I can come up with something that any md'r is guilty of.

eg.: Lost & found laws. IRS tax laws. cultural heritage laws. Harvest/remove/take laws. Alter/deface/dig laws, etc.....

There is probably something like that in state of CA beach laws/rules too. Yet I can guarantee you that there's guy here who (gasp) are finding 51+ yr. old coins from the beach. And I can guarantee you that there's guys in FL doing the same. Just don't wave your stuff in front of bored purist archies. Don't over-think it.
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I was on a beach once and was told by a lifeguard there was no MetalDetecting allowed. I asked what the problem was and of course no good answer. I had more canslaw and trash in my pouch then coins and explained we help clean the beaches by taking the trash with us. Still no detecting and while we where talking here came a woman crying and carrying her son that slit his foot on a beer can that was in the sand. I just told him maybe you should have the guts to stop the people from dringing glass or cans on the beach as it was posted and I pointed this out to him. I guess some pick and choose who they pick on.

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the whole Idea is to never been noticed and never get caught...Its a skill worth developing, plenty of people adopt and master this easily ...Makes for a pretty fun and successful Life on this Planet if you focus on this...

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the whole Idea is to never been noticed and never get caught...Its a skill worth developing, plenty of people adopt and master this easily ...Makes for a pretty fun and successful Life on this Planet if you focus on this...
You got it buddy. Keep a low profile and stay under the radar.

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I was on a beach once and was told by a lifeguard there was no MetalDetecting allowed. ...
Can I ask what beach that was ?

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... as it was posted and I pointed this out to him. I guess some pick and choose who they pick on.
This may shed some light on that hypocricy: So too has it been pointed out, when the subject of "booted md'rs" comes up: An md'r notices that people let their dogs poop on the ground and don't pick up the poop. Even though there's a rule that says "Pick up after your pooch". So the md'r ...... just like your post here ..... points out the inherent contradiction in enforcement/concern.

But notice the difference between those dog-people and the md'r: MD'rs historically go ask lifeguards, send emails, make cold calls, etc.... asking bored govt. officials and beach personnel: "Hi. Is it ok to metal detect on the beach ?" Then the pencil pusher or lifeguard ...... tasked with this "pressing question", sleuths long & hard through the minutia. He finds something that he thinks means "no". Eg.: disturbing sand crabs, or some such nonsense. So he tells the md'r : No. Then guess what happens the next time that official or lifeguard sees another md'r ? He remembers the earlier inquirer and starts booting others.

CONTRAST TO THE DOG PEOPLE: Who NEVER show up asking "Hi, can I let my dog poop all over and not pick it up ?"

Hence shame on those dog-people for not asking "can I?", eh ? Or perhaps it's "shame on us md'rs for asking stupid questions of bored desk jockeys" .

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the whole Idea is to never been noticed and never get caught...Its a skill worth developing....
This beats the heck out of spending your whole life trying to get 1 lone person in 10,000 persons, to change their mind . Rather than knock yourself silly trying to change the attitude of a single person like that (when the other 9,999 persons don't care), it's often better to avoid just that one person. Some people might call that "sneaking around". Ok, fine: Sneak around
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Can I ask what beach that was ?



This may shed some light on that hypocricy: So too has it been pointed out, when the subject of "booted md'rs" comes up: An md'r notices that people let their dogs poop on the ground and don't pick up the poop. Even though there's a rule that says "Pick up after your pooch". So the md'r ...... just like your post here ..... points out the inherent contradiction in enforcement/concern.

But notice the difference between those dog-people and the md'r: MD'rs historically go ask lifeguards, send emails, make cold calls, etc.... asking bored govt. officials and beach personnel: "Hi. Is it ok to metal detect on the beach ?" Then the pencil pusher or lifeguard ...... tasked with this "pressing question", sleuths long & hard through the minutia. He finds something that he thinks means "no". Eg.: disturbing sand crabs, or some such nonsense. So he tells the md'r : No. Then guess what happens the next time that official or lifeguard sees another md'r ? He remembers the earlier inquirer and starts booting others.

CONTRAST TO THE DOG PEOPLE: Who NEVER show up asking "Hi, can I let my dog poop all over and not pick it up ?"

Hence shame on those dog-people for not asking "can I?", eh ? Or perhaps it's "shame on us md'rs for asking stupid questions of bored desk jockeys" .



This beats the heck out of spending your whole life trying to get 1 lone person in 10,000 persons, to change their mind . Rather than knock yourself silly trying to change the attitude of a single person like that (when the other 9,999 persons don't care), it's often better to avoid just that one person. Some people might call that "sneaking around". Ok, fine: Sneak around


Tom... do you realize some of these members haven't been on the forum since 2011 when this thread was started ? Is it slow in the permission section Tom?

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Tom... do you realize some of these members haven't been on the forum since 2011 when this thread was started ? .....
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I just read that anything that has been in Florida waters for 50 years or more is considered state property and is illegal to take. Does this also pertain to items that are 50 years or older and are found between the seaward toe of the dune and the ordinary water line?
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