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Utahoutdoors 03-25-2013 11:13 PM

ethical requirement when you find a ring?
 
Please excuse my ignorence, my family and I are new to detecting. My 10 year old son found a silver ring the other day that got me thinking, if he finds a wedding ring or other valuable objects, is their an ethical obligation to try to find its former owner before he can call it his or is it finders keepers?

Shavnore 03-25-2013 11:16 PM

If it has an engravment with a name on it, the right thing to do is try to find the owner. If not; there is no telling how long ago it was lost and would be impossible to track the owner down.

Scoot_88 03-25-2013 11:17 PM

IMO..... It's finders keepers unless there is a name on it. If there is a name, I would do my research and see if that person is still in the area. If not.... Finders keepers rules apply. If they are... Offer the ring back.
Just my 2 cents worth.

bobda 03-26-2013 12:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scoot_88 (Post 1597387)
IMO..... It's finders keepers unless there is a name on it. If there is a name, I would do my research and see if that person is still in the area. If not.... Finders keepers rules apply. If they are... Offer the ring back.
Just my 2 cents worth.

Agreed!

allank 03-26-2013 12:26 AM

If someone asks you if you found a ring , ask them to describe it before showing it. if it has a name, I would look for the owner

scarfish 03-26-2013 12:56 AM

finders keepers IMO

meatisadelicacy 03-26-2013 01:04 AM

Go with your conscience.

Bazetech 03-26-2013 01:05 AM

Karma is a real weird thing. I feel if it has a name on it, research it and if you can return it, you should. Maybe you'll get a finders fee. At least be able to sleep at night. When it comes to my kids, I try to lead by example. That's just me. However, if it is unmarked, think like a pirate! :cool:

stewart73 03-26-2013 02:24 AM

I usually only feel a tinge of conscience if it has a name inside it...no name though and I'm all smiles! :lol:

MO DIGGER 03-26-2013 02:39 AM

Pretty much what everybody else said
 
Yeah if there is a name on it are somebody comes up and describes it. I think if it does have a name are if you can find the owner, I think your son will feel as good if not better giving it back than he did when he found it. but I wouldn't worry about it much and enjoy the ring cause Class Ring's are the ring's most likely to be returned because they have all kind's of info on them.


ENJOY DETECTING WITH THE FAMILY:band:

351maverick 03-26-2013 02:40 AM

in my experience there are two kinds of metal detector people - those that do it for the thrill of the chase, the chance to find long lost treasure, and then there are those that are in it just for the money

the money guys always say "finders keepers" no matter if there is a name, address, phone number etc etc on a find

the other guys have better moral values and will try to return a find if there is any way possible to

DIGGER27 03-26-2013 04:49 AM

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Originally Posted by 351maverick (Post 1597550)
in my experience there are two kinds of metal detector people - those that do it for the thrill of the chase, the chance to find long lost treasure, and then there are those that are in it just for the money

the money guys always say "finders keepers" no matter if there is a name, address, phone number etc etc on a find

the other guys have better moral values and will try to return a find if there is any way possible to

"Better moral values?"
How many times have you tracked down an owner and had a ring grabbed out of your hand when you go to the trouble of knocking on their door and then had that door slammed in their face?

How about letting someone know you have their property and then they put you off, ignore you, and play games with you for weeks...and then hardly a thank you when they do finally do you a favor and pick it up.

Maybe you have called someone dozens of times and they never answered or just picked up the phone and hung up before you ever had a chance to say a word.

Maybe you have been at a park or beach when someone asks you to find "their" ring with only a vague description and large area where they "lost" it, but in reality they were just hoping to get lucky and take some anonymous ring you found hoping you were foolish enough to believe them.

There are many, many other pretty bad scenarios when you try to return property, not all returns are classic and textbook and make you feel good about yourself.
Sometimes, what can go on can make you feel pretty awful and very frustrated.

Who are you to make such judgements about who is moral and who is not?
Have you walked in ANYONE'S shoes in any of the examples above?

I have, and your ignorant opinion aside I consider myself a very moral person, I have tried to do the "right" thing in the past and I sleep very well at night.
Even my wife, who has always been super sensitive to others feelings and is honest and moral as the day is log, AND was so proud of me the few times I have tried to "Do the right thing" has changed her mind about all this when she saw how I felt and how I was affected after a couple of bad experiences.
Because of the way I was treated in the past I am now a firm believer in that finders keepers thing...and many other hunters feel the same.
I do this for the thrill of the hunt, I don't do this for the money and have never cashed in anything I have ever found but I will one day, and then I will buy something nice for my wife with that money...
Someone that I have full confidence will appreciate the gesture.

Must be nice to live such a righteous life, and think you have the right to make judgement's on everyone else's life, too.
I guess we are honored to have God or at least a Saint as one of the members on this forum.

HarveyH48 03-26-2013 04:58 AM

I think if it's engraved, it's probably worth looking for the owner. If the find looks really valuable, specially beyond scrap value, but no mark, maybe look for an owner. Unmarked, common stuff, probably wouldn't bother, just be too hard to deal with scammers. An engraving is personal, pretty hard to simply guess, and also tend to carry a greater emotional attachment. The reward for returning it, would be much greater than the value of the ring, might even get a few bucks for your time, as gratitude as well.

WildDigger 03-26-2013 05:40 AM

No law no requirement nothing. It is yours to do as you please. Some try and find the owner and some don't. Some who try and find the owner find that it is more trouble then it is worth and the people are not thankful at all.

itsaring! 03-26-2013 06:37 AM

It's whatever you personally prefer. Doesn't bother me which way you decide. You got to remember almost everything we are finding was lost by someone. It isn't just rings. You gonna call Spain if you find a Spanish coin from a wreck and send it back? Me i'll hang onto certain things to see if an owner shows. Other things i don't worry about it. I've been called a few names just for being in the water looking for jewelry. One lady called me a thief. I grew thicker skin beach hunting. Sometimes metal detecting isn't for the timid! Had some friends who used to return rings. The people they returned it to broke them of wanting to try after some bad experiences. Sometimes its neat to hear the story of how something was lost. Be your own guide.

Dirtfishin 03-26-2013 07:30 AM

Try to get it back to the owner by way of possibility name or phone# maybe address, if that fails then its your w/ no regrets...

Captain Silver 03-26-2013 07:51 AM

If someone asked me to look for a ring they lost and I found it, I would return it. Otherwise, it's finders keepers....

highvoltage 03-26-2013 07:56 AM

Heard a saying years ago...."No good deed goes unpunished". It has applied to me many of times.

beachhog 03-26-2013 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Captain Silver (Post 1597680)
If someone asked me to look for a ring they lost and I found it, I would return it. Otherwise, it's finders keepers....

Plus one .;) :p

tjr35 03-26-2013 09:02 AM

My initial feeling is finders keepers. However, I have yet to have the luxury of being in that predicament so I may change my mind when it happens, somehow I doubt it though. :grin:


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