Indiana Nokta Legend
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Digging Prayers
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Hello IndyMike and welcome to the forum.
You will find many people using many different settings. Your soil and so forth has a big part to play in what you run.
I'm a coin shooter "In Training", but I have set up two custom modes saved that I run. I found them both on YouTube and slightly modified for my needs.
The newest one I use is from this video:
It does a great job but you will have to get use to the all tones approach. I cut the background hum out though, it drives me nuts.
While I'm in a field that is challenging, I sometimes switch between this and the other custom setting program I use. If you would like, I can post a complete setup in a follow up post. I notch out alot in it, but it is a quick coin cherry picking program. Sure, you will skip over gold but so will you also skip alot of trash. I left a small range open for certain gold rings but you can change up your game after you cherry pick the area.
Good luck
DP
You will find many people using many different settings. Your soil and so forth has a big part to play in what you run.
I'm a coin shooter "In Training", but I have set up two custom modes saved that I run. I found them both on YouTube and slightly modified for my needs.
The newest one I use is from this video:
It does a great job but you will have to get use to the all tones approach. I cut the background hum out though, it drives me nuts.
While I'm in a field that is challenging, I sometimes switch between this and the other custom setting program I use. If you would like, I can post a complete setup in a follow up post. I notch out alot in it, but it is a quick coin cherry picking program. Sure, you will skip over gold but so will you also skip alot of trash. I left a small range open for certain gold rings but you can change up your game after you cherry pick the area.
Good luck
DP
Digging Prayers
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If your on a heavy foil area, you could try the suggestions on this video. It runs on 4Khz to help you get through the foil.
Tom_in_CA
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Any detector is going to find "foil & cans" if you go to an area riddled with foil & cans (junky sites). And Any detector is going to find "foil & cans" , as long as the user turns down his disc. (lest, heaven forbid, he miss a gold ring).
So if you absolutely must hunt junky sites, then you're going to have to turn up your disc. (kiss nickels and small to medium gold rings goodbye).
Or you can simply go to places that are less junky. Example : I've hunted sites (old stage stops, cellar hole/adobe sites, etc...) which ceased all usage by 1860. Or by 1910, etc... And then there simply is no aluminum of ANY sort. Or to hunt after beach storm erosion where mother nature takes out all the lightweight stuff. Thus : Simply no aluminum. In other words : Location Location Location.
So if you absolutely must hunt junky sites, then you're going to have to turn up your disc. (kiss nickels and small to medium gold rings goodbye).
Or you can simply go to places that are less junky. Example : I've hunted sites (old stage stops, cellar hole/adobe sites, etc...) which ceased all usage by 1860. Or by 1910, etc... And then there simply is no aluminum of ANY sort. Or to hunt after beach storm erosion where mother nature takes out all the lightweight stuff. Thus : Simply no aluminum. In other words : Location Location Location.
Ken Clad
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Those are some very good setups. I think every public space near me has been build on a trash dump. I don't find can slaw, I find intact cans, 2"-3" below grade. One spot I know there is a piece of 2"x2" angle iron 3/4" below grade. It's over 5' long. That park was "one-n-done". I came to the conclusion there is no effective way to hunt or excavate that park without raising the ire of the powers that be.
Just understand when it's time to move on.
Just understand when it's time to move on.
maxxkatt
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The enemies are pull tabs, pop tops, alum foil, foil seals. In 1959, an American man called Ermal Fraze invented the pull tab. Before that Americans used a church key to open cans. Then cam the pop top in 1989. Supposedly the pop top ring was to stay on the can but for some reason people delighted in wiggling off those pop tops and flicking them on the ground. If you detect in any decent sized park you will likely have many years of aluminum trash to contend with.
There have been several ways to deal with these nasty parks. Discrim (not the best idea), notches a better idea but will lose nickels and rings most likely unless you are well trained with the tones on your machine. I never was able to achieve that signal recognition technique.
I found on the 800, hunting nasty parks using 5 kHz and listening for deeper signals than the current aluminum trash level worked somewhat better at finding older coins. The areas of parks built on flood plains tends to have really sandy soil and the heavier coins and relics tend to go deeper over time while the light aluminum trash does not go as deep. I am not sure if you can select say 4 or 5 mhz on the legend. This is a universal metal detecting problem and some detectors and detectorists handle the problem differently. The same can be said for heavy iron and iron falsing. If we had a detector that could effectively solve these two problems we might all be using the same detector.
Maybe someone else will post how they either solved the aluminum trash problem or at least minimized it so you could still hunt a trashy park. I myself would be interested any hints or techniques to help me with trashy parks because ALL MY PARKS in north Atlanta are filled with aluminum trash. For me using my XP2 I use 4.5 mhz and notch out the pull tabs and pop tops. Or if the park is not real trashy, I just use the stock park program. Try hunting totlots and volleyball courts. Very little trash in those sites and very easy to detect and occasional nice jewelry finds. I have found gold/silver rings, pendants, bracelets and even a 22k rabbit charm.
There have been several ways to deal with these nasty parks. Discrim (not the best idea), notches a better idea but will lose nickels and rings most likely unless you are well trained with the tones on your machine. I never was able to achieve that signal recognition technique.
I found on the 800, hunting nasty parks using 5 kHz and listening for deeper signals than the current aluminum trash level worked somewhat better at finding older coins. The areas of parks built on flood plains tends to have really sandy soil and the heavier coins and relics tend to go deeper over time while the light aluminum trash does not go as deep. I am not sure if you can select say 4 or 5 mhz on the legend. This is a universal metal detecting problem and some detectors and detectorists handle the problem differently. The same can be said for heavy iron and iron falsing. If we had a detector that could effectively solve these two problems we might all be using the same detector.
Maybe someone else will post how they either solved the aluminum trash problem or at least minimized it so you could still hunt a trashy park. I myself would be interested any hints or techniques to help me with trashy parks because ALL MY PARKS in north Atlanta are filled with aluminum trash. For me using my XP2 I use 4.5 mhz and notch out the pull tabs and pop tops. Or if the park is not real trashy, I just use the stock park program. Try hunting totlots and volleyball courts. Very little trash in those sites and very easy to detect and occasional nice jewelry finds. I have found gold/silver rings, pendants, bracelets and even a 22k rabbit charm.
Digging Prayers
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Hey IndyMike,
I need to correct something.
I do use the above program and love it. However, if you set it up as it is in the video, it only uses two tones with a constant threshold bacground hum. Leave it on as described. It works wonders. I had turned it off because I didn't want to hear that hum and effectively killed the program. With it on, my, it makes this legend a coin machine.
That "background hum" is called the threshold and is a very useful tool if you can train your ears to use it... I was the same way when I got my first machine with it. An old hunter who'd been detecting for decades took me under his wing and made me a far better detectorist. He taught me to use the threshold and listen for the nuances in it as well as the tones the machine made. I learned using a Sovereign Elite from Minelab with NO display. Learn the sounds and don't rely on the display. GL & HH!
