The FBI Files: Dents Run Civil War Gold

"Mr. Getler and Dennis Parada reached out to staff at Enviroscan to ascertain why Enviroscan’s gravimeter readings proved to be so inaccurate."

You know this sentence is very damning for the Plaintiffs and actually sums up the case in a few words “proved to be so inaccurate”. So much weight was placed on this very “fallible” gravimeter data. The investigators had the survey results prior to the dig and knowing what we know now, they had really only planned to dig six feet or so deep. I give the investigators credit for putting in the hours they did, digging wider and deeper and in more locations than they had ever anticipated, proving that nothing was there.

Incidentally, it hasn’t been mentioned yet, but the machine used had a max digging depth of 12’-8” and images in the files show despite the need for the jack-hammer attachment to break up several feet of bedrock, they stuck with it and hammered and dug to that maximum depth.

And...the simple fact that the investigators had their OPA videographer on-site for Day 1 of the dig tells me they were certainly prepared to unearth the treasure that morning and prepared to publicize their “find of the century”. Local news outlets were on site by the afternoon of the 13th (first day of the dig). The Plaintiff claims they know nothing about who alerted the local news but Plaintiffs’ have admitted having known the reporter and having done interviews with this outlet prior. By the way, although ordered by the investigators not to talk to anyone regarding the operation, the Plaintiffs have already admitted to contacting the geophysical contractor and operator of the excavator shortly after the excavation. It's not a stretch to suspect the Plaintiffs themselves of conspiring to alert the local media in advance.

The Investigators, Plaintiff and his associate were so certain of the survey results prior to the excavation. All of them were overcome with the fascination of Gold and each having their own agenda and manipulating each other to get their hands on it. I have heard comments and read comparisons of this story to the movie “National Treasure” but the list of characters in this story reminds me more of the movie “It’s a Mad, Mad, Mad, Mad World”.
 
Just a quick question of a more general nature....Have any caches of Civil War era gold or silver ever been found in the US?
 
Just a quick question of a more general nature....Have any caches of Civil War era gold or silver ever been found in the US?

As far as vast gold and silver deposits secreted away in the ground or caves, I'm not aware of any but maybe some other members on here are aware of some. There's a lot of legends though.
 
Just a quick question of a more general nature....Have any caches of Civil War era gold or silver ever been found in the US?

As far as vast gold and silver deposits secreted away in the ground or caves, I'm not aware of any but maybe some other members on here are aware of some. There's a lot of legends though.

Even if any were found, it doesn't necessarily lend credibility to each and every other legend that rolls down the pike. Each one has to be measured on its own merits.
 
If I'm not mistaken, the days of paying soldiers in actual money (silver and/or gold) ended right at the dawn of the CW. That's why Camp Floyd (which slightly pre-dated the CW) was so prolific with coin finds. But by the time of the CW, they were paying in scrip by then. Right ?

If you talk to anyone of us out west who have hunted military encampments (forts, etc..) that date to either slightly before, versus during the CW years, the consensus is that the earlier years are when soldiers had pay in the form of coins.

Naturally, some sites over-lapped in years of usage, so it's hard to say when a coin we find was *actually* lost. But just saying that if the location POST DATES a certain year, then the odds of ever finding a gold coin drop through the floor. As opposed to the earlier military sites, which have given up gold coins to md'rs.

So this being the case : Since Dents Run story is set strictly in CW years ... Then wouldn't this bode NO gold ? (at least in-so-far as supposed military payroll goes).

Just a thought.
 
Further documented incidents of possible false statements by Plaintiff:

On 8/4/22 Post #646, Plaintiffs thread "Dents Run Federal Lawsuit Filed Today" in what would be one of his very last posts before the thread was purged in its entirety by the mods, Plaintiff lies while bragging about not lying, quote " Everything we posted in the last 13yrs is true".

We have now detailed multiple incidents of Plaintiff being dishonest rendering this statement literally a lie about not lying. We even presented evidence where Plaintiff himself states that he is dishonest in some of his posts! (see post #99)

Mods: Note, i am not accusing Plaintiff of lying, he himself admitted in his own posts he is not always honest, therefore i have no need to accuse him of it. So, i'm only researching and documenting his own admitted acts of dishonesty.
 
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Further documented incidents of possible false statements by Plaintiff:

On 4/02/22 Post #98, Plaintiffs thread "Dents Run Federal Lawsuit Filed Today" , Plaintiff said, quote "The FBI was a no show today in court".

This was a false statement, unbeknownst to Plaintiff, i had a subscription to the court docket, no hearing was scheduled that day. I pointed this out to him, he then went back and edited his post to alter the meaning, but his original post was clear to me, he wanted to deceive members into believing the FBI did not show up for a hearing (a hearing that never was) in what one can only assume was to create the impression the FBI is hiding something.

When I confronted him with this, as he so often does, he went back and edited his post.
 
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Further documented incidents of Plaintiffs Dishonesty Continued:

On 2/09/21, Post #205, Plaintiffs thread "Did the FBI find 600m in Civil War gold in the PA forest", Plaintiff said, quote "Then our lawyer went after DCNR to and we went after a lot of info. Over 8 times we had appeals from them and us . In the end we won a few weeks ago and this was about the warrant"

This statement is untrue, he actually LOST his case against the PA DCNR a few weeks ago! (a "few weeks ago" at the time he made the post) When i confronted him with it, he again edited and deleted parts of his post, so you can't refer to his post for what he originally said, but i did quote him before he deleted this untrue statement thus preserving his original statement, see Exhibit 1 below.

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Joint Status Report is due on or before September 23, 2022. We may be nearing the end soon.
 
Joint Status Report is due on or before September 23, 2022. We may be nearing the end soon.

It will never end because Dennis will never admit that there was no gold. He'll keep hiring lawyers to bog down the courts with this frivolous nonsense. All taxpayers should be offended by what he is doing.
 
It will never end because Dennis will never admit that there was no gold. He'll keep hiring lawyers to bog down the courts with this frivolous nonsense. All taxpayers should be offended by what he is doing.

True, the story will just morph, and the goal posts will be moved, it's what he does!

I speculate though, he'll talk a big game about bringing a new lawsuit and continue to claim he has all this "evidence no one has seen", but it won't ever happen, as his so-called evidence, is just his beliefs and what he described as "16 pages of witnesses" to which i replied something to the extent of:

And those 16 pages of Witnesses testimony will all be impeached within the first 10 seconds of taking the stands with this one simple question by the defense to each "witness":

Question: "Were you present at the actual dig site to observe any gold being removed from the ground"

Answer: "No, your Honor"

And with one simple question, it'll be exposed that none of his "witnesses" witnessed anything other than FBI at the FBI staging area or the FBI driving by.

Truth is, he'll need clear and convincing evidence to even get to the stage where witnesses will be heard and since he doesn't have it, the case will be dismissed for lack of evidence long before any trial could ever occur.
 
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Even if any were found, it doesn't necessarily lend credibility to each and every other legend that rolls down the pike. Each one has to be measured on its own merits.
Obviously not...I might start a new thread about this rather than take those one too far off track...
 
Joint Status Report is due on or before September 23, 2022. We may be nearing the end soon.


True, the story will just morph, and the goal posts will be moved, it's what he does!....

Yup, the more he is shown "there was nothing there", and the more the evidence stacks up that way, then : You might *think* that's the "end of it". Right ? NNNnnneeeoooo : That will only mean "conspiracy". Hushed & whitewashed and redacted evidence. It will only mean : All the MORE proof of a fabulous treasure. It will NEVER mean: "No treasure"

And even when the legal system ceases to give him a platform (d/t he exhausts his appeals), he can always continue to find sympathetic ears in the media. Media with the "National Enquirer" tabloid reputation caliber, that is. :roll:

Thus no: It will never end. :roll:


It will never end because Dennis will never admit that there was no gold. He'll keep hiring lawyers to bog down the courts with this frivolous nonsense. All taxpayers should be offended by what he is doing.

Yup. I know it's easy to harp on govt. inefficiency and make fun of govt. workers and red-tape, but in THIS case: I actually feel sorry for the constant whining these people have to put up with , with Dennis. Ie.: His gang's constant demand for this folder or that paper. And the constant stream of media and pressure they get from media about this supposed salacious story.

I know someone who works in a small affluent retirement community city-hall office, who has to deal with nasty public. And the rudeness and sniveling attitudes are always a distraction to the job the city personnel have to do. Eg.: Stopping to try to answer someone's question (about a civic rule or about some paperwork, etc...), and then merely have the member of the public try to engage them in a vitriolic debate. They spend a great deal of their time just trying to appease all the snivelers.

So in this Dennis/FBI case, Yes: I actually feel sorry for the people at the FBI now. And oddly, the more they tell him to "bug off", the more that actually BECOMES Dennis's proof of "all the more treasure". Crazy.
 
I believe it will come to an end. For many years he controlled the optics, as he controlled the "evidence", but that is no longer the case. The moment that file became public, his case and fantasy began to unravel, and continues to at an accelerated pace.

We are not confined by his worldview of the story and must not fall into the trap of him continuing to control the narrative (and dictating when it's over) by giving two ***** what he, and his ever-decreasing band of followers, continue to believe. (No one on this forum does, we've seen the light long ago).

His story has been questioned in recent publications. He has failed to prove any maleficence by the FBI. He lost a major motion in his case and is about to have the entire case closed on him. He had to have two whole threads deleted just to try to suppress the truth and has now retreated into his own Facebook group with a handful of followers, where he's had to resort to withholding evidence from its members, ban people, delete posts and resort to periodically locking threads just to control the narrative.

What he continues to believe or not believe is irrelevant in the bigger picture and i suspect in the not-so-distant future, the only one left in his echo chamber to hear his pleas will be his dog.
 
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To add, i used to feel sorry for him. Used to think he actually believed the fantasy. Now, i seriously question whether he does. We've uncovered so many dishonest statements by him, it begs the question, if he truly believed it and had all this evidence he claims, he wouldn't have any need to be dishonest. He wouldn't be jeopardizing his whole case by completely destroying his own credibility. I suspect he has shows and books in the works, (fantasy-fiction works at this point) so he needs to carry on the charade.
 
..... He has failed to prove any maleficence by the FBI. .....

And you know what that means don't you ? : It means the FBI wasn't *stupid*. It merely means the FBI is careful to cover their tracks. They predetermined the ways to hide their evil deed. I mean, shucks: Like a good car thief : They know how not to leave fingerprints. They know how to evade security camera angles. They know how to leave-no-trace, They know how to make the innocent persons look framed, etc...

So : All the more true for the FBI ! Tsk tsk. So therefore, the lack of evidence is : ALL THE MORE EVIDENCE ! :shock:

.... His story has been questioned in recent publications. . .....

Really ? Got some links ? I admit to not following the story outside of md'ing circles lately. But the last I saw, was when various tabloid style media sources were running non-skeptical stories of this (no doubt d/t Dennis' banging on their doors begging for attention).

I don't recall seeing more than 1 or 2 skeptical ones. It was pretty much only in md'ing platforms where md'rs seemed to be raising doubt. I didn't think regular media cared to spend their time "debunking" stories. But, like a lot of TV these days: They seem to only want the cliff-hanger ghost-story allegation stuff. If they're now going back and recanting on the earlier version of this story : Great !
 
To add, i used to feel sorry for him. Used to think he actually believed the fantasy. Now, i seriously question whether he does. ...


I too do not doubt that people who believe in fabled treasures (lost dutchman, Oak Island, Yamashita, etc....) are very sincere. Yes "sincerely mistaken", yet : Very sincere. And thus: Not lying.

And I would have thought that in-lieu of the way this has played out, that Dennis would (excuse the religious jargon) : Repent. Ie.: Wise up, and see, and .... reconsider his steps. See how he was duped and realize his error.

Example: When I went to Mexico in the early 1990s chasing a few legends, My translator/host was utterly adamant on these rock-solid leads we were going to chase. And as I listened to him in the months before we left, I too was spell-bound about how iron-clad they sounded. Metal detectors will make child's-play out of finding more !!

But one-by-one, they fell apart as we hunted all over the Sierra Madres locations he brought me to. So one-by-one I began to scrutinize the stories themselves. And ... I realized I had fallen prey to the easy trap of treasure-lure. I had failed to see the 'more plausible options'. Everyone of them turned out to be a he-said-she-said campfire story.

At first, when trying to play skeptic to my host, he pushed back with fervent belief. But by the time we got back to the USA a few weeks later, he acknowledged the telephone-game-gone-awry. In other words, he changed to a skeptic, and saw that he'd led us on multiple wild goose chases.

Why can't Dennis do that ? !!! ?
 
Really ? Got some links ? I admit to not following the story outside of md'ing circles lately. But the last I saw, was when various tabloid style media sources were running non-skeptical stories of this (no doubt d/t Dennis' banging on their doors begging for attention). !

Read the Atlantic article by Chris Heath. He keeps it professional, but it's some serious shade he's throwing on the claims. From pointing out that his research turned up no evidence supporting the Dents Run story prior to the 1960's, to pointing out, that when assessing the credibility of what to believe, to consider it was a psychic (who's son described his father as a fraud, a narcissist and a con man) who "discovered" the site, to pointing out that Dennis can "weave together an intricate narrative from a few slender and sometimes tentative facts", to pointing out that Dennis was trespassed from the site, to pointing out the "old timers" memories of the story actually aren't very old after all, to pointing out that Military Institutes document implies a "credibility it might not have", to how he says he may have been played by the psychics "aww shucks" routine and how he could tell you more to raise your doubts such as dowsing was used and how he(the author) pointed that a contraception in Dennis basement that Dennis alleged created free energy, "if true" would have generated more income then any gold to defending the FBI's post dig hands off approach to the case. Ultimately concluding; "I’d so like to believe, but I just can’t quite get there."

Link: https://www.theatlantic.com/magazin...ania-civil-war-treasure-gold-hunt-fbi/638445/

Imagine had he had the benefit of all the information we have all uncovered now that the file is unsealed!
 
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