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How well does the Deus alert you on targets?

First question.
How far from 90GB do you let the ground drift before doing a GB?
My test garden reads 82GB and half fills the mineral scale.
 
ghound said:
First question.
How far from 90GB do you let the ground drift before doing a GB?
My test garden reads 82GB and half fills the mineral scale.
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Good question.
My experiences using Deus.
The higher the frequency you run, the more forgiving the GB can be for depth.

A user can monitor their groundphase periodically and yes can do a manual or pumping ground balance to insure proper GB.
A person can run tracking too, but Inremind folks you run tracking in a site loaded with nails, Deus will likely track out,,,meaning a user liables to see ground phase start reading in the low 60s to high 60s, and Deus will start getting real noisy and try to give better tone (nonferrous sounding) even while coil is over ferrous material(s).

I should also say I don't like how Deus tracking phase window works when xy screen is selected,,,I like using the screen with horseshoe better.

If a user is while bobbing coil over clean ground seeing mid scale on the minerlization meter,,,likely lowest reactivity setting useable is level 2 on coin sized objects ,unless perhaps the coins/objects are huge in size.
Silencer -1 I highly recommend.

Hope this helps.
 
Cheers tnss, i've only a few hours on the machine, some machines i like straight away, this one i'm not that hot on, hopefully it's a grower!
 
Here's something, i've a clad dime on the end of a wooden dowel, it's pushed into the ground at 6" deep, tried the deus in all factory disc modes, 90GB, full sens, couldn't hit it....
Rutus in basic mode, factory GB, full sens, hits it no probs.

I know it's not a scientific test, but even so........
 
ghound said:
Here's something, i've a clad dime on the end of a wooden dowel, it's pushed into the ground at 6" deep, tried the deus in all factory disc modes, 90GB, full sens, couldn't hit it....
Rutus in basic mode, factory GB, full sens, hits it no probs.

I know it's not a scientific test, but even so........
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Would this dime when pushed in be in a "on edge" orientation?
 
Ground balance the detector and try.
Also experiement t with sens setting, by raising it.
Deus should hit the dime I would think, even with half scale depicted on mineral meter.

Reactvity 2.5 , 18khz, silencer -1, sens 92, ground balance to actual ground, audio repeat 5. Tx power 2.
This should provide tone on dime,,,now ID may be shaky,
 
Ok, took the wooden dowel out of the ground, GB over the hole got 82 with the mineral scale at half full.
Tried the settings, nothing, full sens, nothing. Rutus is hitting it in factory ultra fast !!
Maybe i have a faulty unit, but it air tests the same as the Rutus????
I'm stumped!!
 
ghound said:
Ok, took the wooden dowel out of the ground, GB over the hole got 82 with the mineral scale at half full.
Tried the settings, nothing, full sens, nothing. Rutus is hitting it in factory ultra fast !!
Maybe i have a faulty unit, but it air tests the same as the Rutus????
I'm stumped!!
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Okay try this.
Bury dime at 4" and try, then 5" and so on.
Try the settings I passed along above for Deus, except reactvity at 3 silencer -1.
When you get to a depth Deus quits toning in on,,,then try Rutus.
If Rutus hits,,play with reactive settings on Rutus,,,and see which of the lower reactive fail to provide signal.

It may be possible Rutus is doing better in the rather high minelaized soil.

Also,,you need to try a lower conductive coin like a U.S nickel and do the above.

I wished you had a 9" coil for Deus to try as well.
 
Deus gets the nickel, just.
Been using 4 silver silver sixpences at 3"-4"-5"-6", all coins ID between 80-82, slightly bigger in size than a dime, the Deus just can't get the 6", the Rutus gets it in factory basic which is a real mild setting and still tones with sens down at 60 out of 90, audio gain 20 out of 60.
Again i GB at 82, when pumping the coil it half fills the mineral scale.

More help needed, i'll try and get it on camera today, i need to start over, maybe a factory reset and reload v4 ????
 
ghound said:
Deus gets the nickel, just.
Been using 4 silver silver sixpences at 3"-4"-5"-6", all coins ID between 80-82, slightly bigger in size than a dime, the Deus just can't get the 6", the Rutus gets it in factory basic which is a real mild setting and still tones with sens down at 60 out of 90, audio gain 20 out of 60.
Again i GB at 82, when pumping the coil it half fills the mineral scale.

More help needed, i'll try and get it on camera today, i need to start over, maybe a factory reset and reload v4 ????
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Are you running head phones and judging an audio response or are you looking for a ID display ? I dig a lot of good targets that don't display .It's an audio response, don't look at the display for ID or you will likely miss good targets. It sounds like the Rutus is a great machine, thanks for sharing the info.
 
Hi Bibelot, yes i've noticed it doesn't ID at depth too good.
So i moved to another bit of ground, popped in the coin at 6" and it's getting it, must be something in the ground at the first test hole that the Deus don't like, saying that the Rutus at normal sweep speed is still hitting it far harder, the Deus is less confident, but it's a start !!

Going for a short hunt, hopefully pick up a few targets to compare the signals from each machine.
 
ghound said:
Hi Bibelot, yes i've noticed it doesn't ID at depth too good.
So i moved to another bit of ground, popped in the coin at 6" and it's getting it, must be something in the ground at the first test hole that the Deus don't like, saying that the Rutus at normal sweep speed is still hitting it far harder, the Deus is less confident, but it's a start !!

Going for a short hunt, hopefully pick up a few targets to compare the signals from each machine.
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Yes, the deus doesn't sound particularly good for hard hitting but it is what I like,its not overdriving so you know the target and its depth from the signals. I like the deus so well that I bought
Another with remote and xp pointer last night.I adhered to it like a bug to light, I honestly don't think it will grow on a person, either they like it or they don't.
 
Big difference between versions 2.0 and 3.2 vs 4.0 version for how Deus responds on targets.

If you think 4.0 version is lite sounding, try the other versions, you likely will be even lesser impressed.

A little more here.
Version 4.0 really helped Deus.

Using previous versions, Deus didn't alert on unusually shaped (non round, more porous nonferrous time very well and could be walked right by- really needed a more trained ear to hear.
Version 4 pops moreso on these types of finds.
Version 4.0 definitely makes the Deus a better relic Hunter.
And has improved the machine for coin hunting, but not as much as relic hunting IMO.

The XY screen, you depend on it totally when hunting sites loaded with nails and iron, you will be alerted on some nonferrous, and will finally decide to walk.
 
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I think i have yet to get my 'ear in' with the Deus.
Took both for a run today and tried them over the same targets, just the one coin that wasn't deep, both banged it out, a tiny button that was face up at about 3" that the Deus hit well enough, Rutus didn't like it, a length of twisted copper wire, Rutus loved it Deus hated it lol
No doubt you could walk either of these machines behind each other and find stuff, at the moment the deeper signals are coming through better with the Rutus in my soil, but very impressed by the Deus on the tiny button.
The field i was in GB 82-84 and half way on the mineral scale.
I've a few video clips to upload.
 
Deus loves round.
And by it loving round, in my opinion based on use,,round items it will unmask better too in polluted sites.
Hard for iron and nails to saturate to the point to keep Deus from reporting.

Other detector models, many of them will struggle here big time, like (no detection, or alerting).

This is not to say Deus will unmask every nonferrous round target, but leads here in this dept. IMO.

This also means Deus will alert on round things of ferrous too.
So get ready to dig some of these.
Better safe than sorry.
 
That's a big plus for the Deus no doubt and i love digging old buttons.
But the Rutus has to be the bargain of the mid priced detectors, fast as a Deus, runs CC coils, better audio and ID at depth in tough ground, can assign every ID number a tone, hodo graph, wireless, lightweight, 71 khz changes etc etc, jeepers it's good, BUT i've it up for sale.
Quite simply, i've a 2 detector rule and i have my eyes on another machine. I bought the Rutus for the right money from a guy who only had it a few weeks, he never even had the cc coil on.
So hopefully i'll lose very little, if i had been the other way around and i had bought the Deus cheaper it would be for sale instead, no question!
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I just received a brand new Rutus v1.1. I really like the hybrid Xterra 705 and Deus vibe. I think soil is the difference. Some test garden use only it's not really seeming any different than Deus. Definitely not deeper in mild soil but I do prefer the Rutus tones. I haven't even begun to try all the options though. just some basic frequency/recovery changes on testing.

A 6 inch dime is no issue on it or the deus with even 9" in my garden though. Heck even my Tracker 4 will tick on the dime in my soil every once in a while. But when it comes to 9" penny and 10" quarter the rutus and deus struggle a bit compared to say Minelabs with same size coils. Just my soil I guess. The design trumps the Impact easily nice light and solid. though the grip angle is slightly too forward like the impact.
 
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